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forumposter123@protonmail.com's avatar

I think you miss the point.

Everyone knows technology has gotten better since 1960. But they don’t credit this fact to our institutions or social norms. They credit it to “some stuff nerds reliably do that make us X% richer every year as long as we aren’t communists”.

So what they really want is 2025 technology combined with 1960 society. Amazon.com + 1960 crime rates. Central AC + 1960 marriage rates. Lower child mortality + 1960 fertility rates.

They seem to correctly understand that a working class person could acquire a wife, kids, and shelter in a safe neighborhood near their work in 1960. The home might have been smaller and it might have had less appliances, but it would have been a home with a family in a stable community.

In other words, the kind of stuff Charles Murray talks about in Coming Apart.

Myself, it’s clear from running the math that someone with my father’s job could not afford to live in the house I grew up in. Perhaps you could say this is a sign of economic growth (real estate got more expensive), but Something feels off about that.

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Trey Stites's avatar

A nice oasis in the sea of online doomposting, which definitely plays a role in the widespread negativity. I think you did a great job covering the analytical perspective. There’s certainly no rational reason for the negativity. I wonder if what you’ve observed can be explained better psychologically, or dare I say spiritually? I’m not sure if there are already coined terms out there to describe things like this, maybe you can be the first.

Nice work! Looking forward to more

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